munderfire

Steps:
1) create animation
2) in animation mode toggle off and toggle on "Show images"
in my case it've created keys on attachment (turned them of and didn't turn them back on)
3) Delete the keys - attachments will stay turned off even though there won't be any keys
4) you can fix it by manualy choosing and turning on all the attachments - keys won't appear though but attachments will stop disappearing


problems:
1)toggle button affect keys and attachments in animation mode(but once - turning toggle on didn't fix the problem)
2)deleting the keys created this way do not tunr attachments back

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upd: on screen u can see filter on the timeline - its on attachment (turned it on to find the problem) problem was not about filter
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munderfire
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Luke

Hello, I tried to reproduce your error but was unable to do so.
If the issue is still occurring, could you attach a video of the error in action?
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Søren

In your screenshot it looks like you are hiding the slot and not the attachment under the slot. Even if you delete the attachment key the attachment will not be visible if the slot containing the attachment is hidden.

From the small screenshots it's a bit difficult to see if this is the cause of the problem you are having, but it's worth checking.
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munderfire

Luke je napisao/la:Hello, I tried to reproduce your error but was unable to do so.
If the issue is still occurring, could you attach a video of the error in action?
I couldn't repeat it either (tried only 2 times) - keys haven't been created (maybe i'v been pushing some hotkeys like ctrl/shift/ctrl+shift/alt - didn't chek it, but could use it)
I forgot to metion that after step 3 (deleting keys) i saved the project 'cause thought it'll fix it - next day i found that attachment keep on dissapearing without any keys.
Søren je napisao/la:From the small screenshots it's a bit difficult to see if this is the cause of the problem you are having, but it's worth checking.
no, unfortunately I turned that filters to find keys on attachments and/or slot, i made it After i found a problem.
Also i've deleted the keys on previous day and saved it) there were keys on attachment (that turns off/on attachments).
I tried to show on screen that i found that on 57 frame slot keys turn red, cause attachment inside was turning off (even though there were no any keys on slot or attachment)

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i think there is no bug with turning of attachments by pushing Show/Hide images.
Probably i was deactivating attachments in animation mode instead of setup by mistakes.

Then there's only 1 problem - attachment keys on timeline are hidden by deafult even if there is no filters.
To turn them on i have:
1)change Dopesheet to Graph
2) pusha ctrl+A and click
3) turn on (pic3)
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Misaki

I’ve replied to your other post (attachment bug) asking you to send us the project to reproduce the problem, and if you can send us the project, we'd like to investigate this issue as well.
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munderfire

Misaki je napisao/la:I’ve replied to your other post (attachment bug) asking you to send us the project to reproduce the problem, and if you can send us the project, we'd like to investigate this issue as well.
ok, if i
if l'l send it to you without imgs you'll still be able to figure it out?
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Misaki

Thank you for sending your project, I've figured it out! The cause of your confusion is the Sync button on the Dopesheet view. When enabled, the dopesheet shows the rows for the curves that are visible in the graph, and this hides the keys for attachments and draw order because they have no curves. I think it is not a bug but an intentional implementation, but it certainly could be confusing, so we will discuss whether this should be fixed.

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Sorry, my first response was not accurate. The reason the attachment keys and the draw order keys were not displayed was simply because the visibility dots of them were not turned on the Graph view. You can see how the Sync button works in the video below:

Thus, the Sync button determines what is displayed on the dopesheet based on the Graph view, so if you don’t want to see both the Dopesheet view and the Graph view at the same time, you should turn it off.
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munderfire

actually my problem is about attachment keys are turned off by default.
and if i turn them on, save the project, close spine and then open spine next day - keys are hidden again.

each time I open any project - display of attachment keys is off. I have to turn them on manually each time i start the spine.
that's what caused me to missunderstanding the bug first - i couldn't see attachment keys, because i missed the moment when i've created them and they turned off after Spine restart or re-opening the project

made a record with the bug, hope it'll help -



also i've tried to turn off sync and it lead to dissapearing of all keys from dopesheet
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Misaki

Thanks for elaborating on your problem, but it is not a bug. The Graph view automatically adjusts what it shows when there are too many timelines to display, so in your case there are too many RGBA(Slot color) timelines and the attachment display is disabled.
also i've tried to turn off sync and it lead to dissapearing of all keys from dopesheet
If this is true, it could be a bug. If I try with the project you provide us, all the keys appear when I turn off the Sync button, so I was not able to reproduce the problem. Could you please show us a screen-recording video for this?
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munderfire

also i've tried to turn off sync and it lead to dissapearing of all keys from dopesheet
If this is true, it could be a bug. If I try with the project you provide us, all the keys appear when I turn off the Sync button, so I was not able to reproduce the problem. Could you please show us a screen-recording video for this?[/quote]i guess it's not a bug. so as i didn't use sync before, i could just make mistake as well as when i didn't know about
The Graph view automatically adjusts what it shows when there are too many timelines to display, so in your case there are too many RGBA(Slot color) timelines and the attachment display is disabled.
=)

thank you for explanation and help!
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Misaki

i guess it's not a bug. so as i didn't use sync before, i could just make mistake as well as when i didn't know about
Hmm, I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by that, but anyway, it is good to hear your problem is solved when you do not use Sync.
We would like to improve the user guide if there are any unclear explanations, so please feel free to post your question whenever you have.
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